tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post9114412244732752469..comments2024-03-18T18:19:02.132-07:00Comments on Calvin's Canadian Cave of Coolness: NO NO NOCal's Canadian Cave of Coolnesshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08408150910056369989noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-6595563906891942902011-04-01T12:53:31.969-07:002011-04-01T12:53:31.969-07:00Nazis hated religion unless they could twist it . ...Nazis hated religion unless they could twist it . . . so please don't compare Christians to Nazis. There were plenty of Christian martyrs killed in concentration camps, so I don't think that argument necessarily adds up. <br /><br />What about those Nazis who were really into the science of eugenics to prove their superiority? They liked evolutionary theory.<br /><br />Science is it's own religion, and Christians get bashed plenty by judgmental bigots. Not every scientist is an atheist, not every Christian is a creationist, or at least not in the sense that you seem to mean.Tyrean Martinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15356604721537744361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-38662026460707792422011-04-01T12:00:27.279-07:002011-04-01T12:00:27.279-07:00Well now that I am a part of the A-Z Challenge I a...Well now that I am a part of the A-Z Challenge I am getting visited by people who can't figure out to look for the picture of the challenge to see the letter of the day post. One even told me that Dr Who started with the letter D. I think I also shocked some of the older visitors to my blog. All the followers I am getting are going to be going away soon enough so I won't get excited about all the attention.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-41342790011260065792011-04-01T11:37:31.393-07:002011-04-01T11:37:31.393-07:00I'm feeling cranky today too. It's so easy...I'm feeling cranky today too. It's so easy to get heated up about stuff like this. <br /><br />But that's also the fun part--getting into discussions like this can be very eye-opening if everyone in the discussion respects each other. Unfortunately that's not usually the case (except your blog where everyone seems to respectfully state their opinion). Just goes to show you that you attract reasonable and intelligent people to your blog!Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11097490501209800455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-12771041074048771452011-04-01T11:28:13.159-07:002011-04-01T11:28:13.159-07:00All good points Sarah. I find it hard to argue wit...All good points Sarah. I find it hard to argue with you there. I am just a cranky faithless bastard I guess. Oh well. Good thing I don't believe in hell so I can't burn there for all eternity.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-79926336452538418722011-04-01T11:15:58.171-07:002011-04-01T11:15:58.171-07:00I agree with Wings “Public schools should always f...I agree with Wings “Public schools should always fall under separation of church and State. ALWAYS.” This country seems to have forgotten that we were founded in part for freedom of religion and that means the freedom to NOT have religion. 100% agreement with you there Kal.<br /><br />I’m an open minded spiritual person…I believe ANYTHING is possible. Therefore, I don’t think that science and a belief in a higher power/all-power spiritual being are mutually exclusive.<br /><br />How long is a day to an omnipotent being? Would we interpret it as a 24-hr day, or is more like a 1-billion year-long day? If the universe was created by an all-powerful being, why wouldn’t it be smart enough to create a self-sustaining system and build evolution, gravity, relativity, and all those other scientific “laws” into this created universe?<br /><br />My problem with science is that we call things FACTS when they aren’t. At one point in time, it was scientific fact that the earth was flat, that the atom couldn’t be split, that Pluto was a planet, etc. <br /><br />Science itself is uncertain—our scientific “laws” are actually theories—because scientists who use the scientific method understand that nothing can be proven entirely. So while we can generally say gravity works, the disclaimer is that gravity works SO FAR AS WE KNOW NOW.<br /><br />We’re constantly learning more about the universe that invalidates previous discoveries. Which is fine and how it should be—I think we should always be questioning things, no matter what we are told. <br /><br />One thing to take comfort in—I remember learning about this in school and my teacher did this since he was required to teach both. He went into great detail about the theory of evolution (again, THEORY, since not everyone agrees exactly how it works) and we spent several classes on it. Then he gave Creationism about 5 min of time saying “This is what others believe, but is not accepted within the general scientific community”. I’m guess that most science teachers are big believers of science (why else would they be teaching it?) and will do similar things—stress the Theory of Evolution and just touch on Creationism.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11097490501209800455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-5424208839141292272011-03-31T22:21:36.794-07:002011-03-31T22:21:36.794-07:00Some things need to always be separated. I have se...Some things need to always be separated. I have see too many times in history when 'faith' in one ideology or another has been used to oppress a minority group with great evil. That is what puts me on my rants. I hate when powerful institutions like the Catholic church virtually get away with molestation and murder because there are people, millions of people who will not make them accountable for their actions.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-52180314979447670392011-03-31T22:14:12.222-07:002011-03-31T22:14:12.222-07:00I do not beleive in evolutioon, nor do I believe i...I do not beleive in evolutioon, nor do I believe in science. They are facts so I do not have to believe. I can check the facts and wether I believe them or not is irrelevant. They simply are.<br /><br />Faith is different. Faith is a belief in something where the facts say different. What good is a faith that has the facts to back it up?<br /><br />That is one of the reasons that we are fortunate to live in a secular state. Canada and America have a seoparation of church and state and that is a very good thing. A secular state is better for religious freedom than a faith based state. A faith-based state is only good for the majority faith. Those of a different faith or denomination become heretics under such a state.<br /><br />It is a good thing for the state to be atheist or at least agnostic as long as it is tolerant of diverse faiths.M. D. Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13820831338678743992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-42789914162165461672011-03-31T17:43:58.765-07:002011-03-31T17:43:58.765-07:00The reason there are so many different Christian c...The reason there are so many different Christian churches is because they can't agree on a host of issues. Every church interprets the Bible differently. C.S. Lewis, who wrote the Narnia series and was a famous Christian, believed evolution was true. My sister is a Christian and believes in evolution also. <br />I believe in the 6 day thing, although this rock, planet earth, was probably here for billions of years before God decided to spruce it up. To each his own. We should let people believe what they want without trying to force our beliefs on them and pass laws to make people obey what WE think the Bible says.Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14175778756449339363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-59548771526731329042011-03-31T16:38:46.365-07:002011-03-31T16:38:46.365-07:00And they're mean-spirited to boot.
Worst kind ...And they're mean-spirited to boot.<br />Worst kind of human being.DrGoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687607103991307668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-29563022206614212462011-03-31T16:37:35.069-07:002011-03-31T16:37:35.069-07:00I'll spare you my rant, and say I agree wholeh...I'll spare you my rant, and say I agree wholeheartedly. Spirituallity, of a sort is nice, similar to native American beliefs. Spirits in the wind, critters, earth etc. That leads to respect, not greed and disrespect of the land and it's denizens. I know good christians, who are kind and forgiving and are good people, but this BS christianity that 80% of the religious seem to have adopted, is just greed and ignorance, nothing less.DrGoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687607103991307668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-36310833133611972992011-03-31T14:07:43.461-07:002011-03-31T14:07:43.461-07:00You are so right Jeff. I am sure if I just let thi...You are so right Jeff. I am sure if I just let this post sit for 24 hours I would have re-written the whole thing but I had a belly full of some asshat emailing me their god and guns b.s. Goodwin's law indeed. I would go back and change things but I have a personal rule about that. I can defend all I said but I agree that I could have make my arguement more convincing if I had taken time to edit it properly like it should have been. Maybe next time. Thanks for joining in on the discussion.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-6098153171478579492011-03-31T14:03:29.478-07:002011-03-31T14:03:29.478-07:00Long time reader first time poster, and generally ...Long time reader first time poster, and generally I enjoy your blog. Additionally as a rule I agree with most of what you say in this post, but you ought to make yourself familiar with Godwin's Law, and specifically corollary one. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law <br /><br />You do not strengthen your position or suppositions with statements like this. I understand the value of a good rant as much as the next guy, but there are stronger ways to make a point than automatically comparing everyone who disagrees with you to the worst evil that humanity has ever produced. <br /><br />"You like white bread when rye is obviously superior! You know who else liked white bread?!?! NAZIS!!!!!!one!!!!!!1111!!!!!!eleven!!!!" Does not make a convincing argument. Don't get me wrong, I get where you're coming from; there can be a lot of frustration dealing with some dogmatic fundamentalists but you don't bring much to the table without well reasoned discourse... /soapbox (sorry for the mini rant).Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01887726276928168854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-19115699193715266052011-03-31T13:35:24.842-07:002011-03-31T13:35:24.842-07:00If 10 followers leave because of this than bosh on...If 10 followers leave because of this than bosh on them. Their convictions must not be that strong if they can't handle someone else expressing their opinion.TS Hendrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12965357024150434808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-7802562183671815322011-03-31T13:30:00.178-07:002011-03-31T13:30:00.178-07:00The precious and beloved 'founders' certai...The precious and beloved 'founders' certainly knew what they were talking about when they spoke of the separation of Church and state. It avoids all kinds of issues that divide us.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-9597500752377593112011-03-31T13:15:47.861-07:002011-03-31T13:15:47.861-07:00I think I already am crazy..
Anyway,awesome post....I think I already am crazy..<br /><br />Anyway,awesome post. The comic sketch is also very funny. I just read the 2nd Bobcat comic by theoatmeal, so that's 2 awesome comics I've come across today. =)Paradox Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03747384007239701308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-24710145303681591292011-03-31T13:13:17.971-07:002011-03-31T13:13:17.971-07:00A topic that just seems like it will never get a r...A topic that just seems like it will never get a resolution, since both sides, or all sides, feel so strongly. I just don't know why we can't keep the religious stuff OUT of the PUBLIC schools. Let them teach it in church, catechism or in their private schools. Public schools should always fall under separation of church and state. ALWAYS.Wings1295https://www.blogger.com/profile/08045644215235749353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-91601748195353874192011-03-31T13:09:10.569-07:002011-03-31T13:09:10.569-07:00Sounds like a good way to think that keeps you fro...Sounds like a good way to think that keeps you from going crazy.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-30090197288208740682011-03-31T13:06:36.252-07:002011-03-31T13:06:36.252-07:00"Faith is of the heart, and when not governed..."Faith is of the heart, and when not governed by reason, charlatans have a powerful tool."<br /><br />I remembered this line, from an RPG game that I'm still playing, when I read your post. <br /><br />I think religion should keep to itself, instead of trying to govern everything under the sun. Like most things, I think most people take religion far too seriously. It's like those people who take nutrition research and "diet breakthroughs" too seriously, even though you know what they say is healthy today might suddenly be bad for you tomorrow(like soy beans?). I'm a bit like TS Hendrik: I have faith, but I also believe in science. It might make me wishy-washy, but I take most things with a pinch of salt.Paradox Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03747384007239701308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-16259310428744752262011-03-31T12:39:47.886-07:002011-03-31T12:39:47.886-07:00I do so love the comments here. TS well said and s...I do so love the comments here. TS well said and some of that hits home with me too. Like Paladin, who is so far to the right, I enjoy the comments and the thoughts involved. I always enjoy being made to think a bit more about something. Kal, if 10 followers leave over this I will go find you 10 more. If you can't blog with passion and belief, why bother?<br /> I am happy now you guys rock.csmith2884https://www.blogger.com/profile/11875341022359650085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-34104958891378340912011-03-31T12:11:55.891-07:002011-03-31T12:11:55.891-07:00I appreciate you not ripping me a new one. My off ...I appreciate you not ripping me a new one. My off the cuff kind of reactions to stupidity often don't take into account rationale arguements by good people with intelligent explanations. It would be nice to have this discussion with you. There go another ten followers. LOL.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2528812496347938474.post-44196832395434241632011-03-31T12:04:37.132-07:002011-03-31T12:04:37.132-07:00Actually as a Christian, I do believe in Natural S...Actually as a Christian, I do believe in Natural Selection. I don't believe in evolution mind you. Nor do I believe the earth is just 6000 years old. It makes me laugh when atheists assume that all Christians just run on faith, that we don't believe in science. Just because I believe in a creator doesn't preclude logic. I'm a thinking person, who walked away from the faith he was taught. I returned years later when I made what I consider to be a logical decision. One day I'd like to have a talk with you on such matters. Not to try and convert you, but for the sake of an interesting conversation.TS Hendrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12965357024150434808noreply@blogger.com