Whether these marchers in Charlottesville recognize it or not, they still benefit, tremendously, from the color of their skin, in comparison to any other group in the United States. White nationalists aren’t victims fighting against oppression of their race – they’re deluded misanthropes, oblivious of the privileges they continue to enjoy. I shan’t make grandiose statements about whether that is “American” or not – but certainly history doesn’t record whites in America as being victims. If anything, on the contrary.
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My Dad went over and fought Nazis so I have a particularly dim view of them. Everyone should have the opportunity to speak his piece but don't expect me to tune in to their drivel. Stupidity and ignorance seem to be on the rise.
you forgot one as far as images of Marvel and DC characters punching hitler http://hitlergettingpunched.blogspot.com/2009/10/hey-thing-what-time-is-it.html
I draw the line at Nazis. I always have. When I was 10 my father made a point of taking us to the Dacau concentration camp to make sure we understood why he was a soldier and why some things are wrong and are always wrong and you don't let their hateful actions pass.
the so called "Rebel Flag was never used in Battle... just because some raciest Hate groups wish to use it as Their symbol... does Not make this Flag "Bad"... just the "Hate-mongers" who "try" to wield it as Theirs... Wrong... Stands for Southern "Heritage" not "Racism"... but these people have forever "tarnished" its meaning... And the Reverse-Discrimination Blacks... using it as their "Soap-Box"...They should take it out on the Bigots and Racists (White And Black) who only spout HATE... and leave the poor Flag out of this...
Uh, that flag was used by a men and women who wanted to abolish the UNITED stated and got their asses handed to them, Theda. Burn every last one of those rags.
And what's with all the "quotes"?
The flag is a symbol of all that is wrong with the confederate ideology. To be proud of that flag is to be okay with the slavery it represents. It's has to go like those statues have to go. It's the price they have to play for still having their racist beliefs in a time when we don't need that kind of bullshit in our lives and they owe us for causing all this crap in the first place. They can't shove their balloon juice in our faces without consequences. We are trying to build a civilization here and that kind of hatred and ignorance has no place. Trump also will pay for all his sins one day soon and we will all be better off when that happens.
Theda: You might as well hang a British flag on the same pole to "celebrate" all the Tory loyalists who fought against their brothers and neighbors in the Revolution to keep the colonies under British Rule. Nothing against the British flag, but it has no place there. Same with the Confederate flag. It is the banner of a group of people who fought against their brothers and neighbors to break away from the Union in order to preserve their "Plantation" way of life in all connotations of that phrase. They failed. It has no place on any piece of public property in the Union. That it has now also been co-opted by hate groups only underscores that fact more.
J-swim... that was After the civil war... there was great Hatreds against the newly liberated Blacks... that would likely be what you are referring to.
... and so it became known as a symbol of "Hate" (And the ""'s are to show emphasis upon a word or phrase)
their Want to "abolish" the US was part of that on-going Hatred... (that is how it became know as the "Rebel Flag")...
it was "intended to stand for Southern Heritage" but its original meaning was "corrupted" by Bigots and "Hate-Mongers"
... I am proud to be from the South... and treat people as they deserve (regardless of just "skin-color") an A$$-Hole is an A$$-Hole regardless of skin color...
it seems to be part of Human Nature to have a Race or Peoples for them to direct their Hatred towards... sad but true.
And Calvin, the Flag was Not intended to represent "Slavery"... Hate-Monger used it as Their symbol.. thus the Negative association.
And the "Skin-head" agenda of Racism is a very poor choice for "beliefs"... (and NAZIS are just Bad, and "uncalled for"...)
Jester does have Very good "points"... my neighbor's flag has a smaller British flag in the corner... that is fine with me... and do not mind others flying at their home to pay homage to their place of origin... And Obama's refusal to Honor the flag (of the Country, of which he was President was "Inexcusable"..!!!!!)
Not much for Politics... But we have a place in my Southern Heart for this Flag as a symbol of my Southern Heritage Not the common "Red-Neck" "Hillbilly" mentality that they have caused the (once Proud) flag now represents...
But the south lost and was absorbed back into the union. Any symbol of so-called "heritage" should be viewed as treason against the UNITED states.
No,... for the same reason that Northerners call me "Hill-Billy" (red-neck, or worse...) true Many down here are ignorant Bigots... I do not fit said "mind-set"...
as for this Flag, to me this flag is "special"... not for the reasons of Hatred" ... but for what my great grand-mother told me of its "original" (and intended) meaning... we will agree with its removal from State and Gov locations (but NOT by "radical Morons"... and these historic items should be displayed (for the Public) in other locations that State and Gov complexes...
... but the actions in Durham are "uncalled for and unforgivable"...
this country has some many varying "ideals and agendas... that we have been Far from "United" for many years... sad to say...
and good, "j-swim", there are too many who use this as a symbol of Hate... we respect your thought on this matter... but have our own reasons for our "stance" upon it... have a pleasant week...
Yeah well, that's like your opinion, man.
The flag can only stand for one thing now. It's a reminder to all former slaves to keep their place. Irrlevant what it's meaning was back in the day. Today it has only one meaning. Like the Swaztika. Hitler ruined that and those mustaches for all time.
Those maniacs have pissed on the flag you love Dr. It's just a rag now. Let it go. Let the hate go.
What if I use this new Hate to fuel my very existence...??? we know many a terrible thing and how to properly make and use them...
.... This world deserves a better (and more "interesting") class of Criminal... so far only an ex-Bank Robber...
always trying to be "Nice" and help others (even when we cannot even help myself)...
so should we become the Evil thing inside ...?? getting much harder to keep it at bay... I am dying and would not have a lot to loose if we "turn to our Dark Side"...
Say what you will about this (once proud) Flag... it will Not change the way we feel about it... and we do not view it as a symbol of Hate... and still refuse to judge people simply by the color of their skin...!!!
Hate (mostly against the "Holier than Thou" A$$-Holes of this small town) is one thing along with pure Spite of them are about the only thing still keeping this dying body alive... (it is Not the "Hate" that you may think we are talking about... but a darkness at my very core... just waiting for Stacey to "Give up" so it can consume us...
Good "Come-back", Sir J-Swim... very intelligently worded...
... We are No "Racist and we are Not happy with these Violently Radical Black Mobs and their Terrorist-like Attacks... they deserve the same treatment that the US would give to Any Terrorists !!!
I would fly my Flag beneath the USA'a and the State's Flags...
as a show of Respect to the Country and State First !
I can Still be an American (and a proud Southerner) and not be a "Racist"...
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