One of my favorite television pundits is Bill Maher. I think he is smart and fair and can defend his unpopular opinions better than most. He's not trying to feed me bullshit.
So today, the 'lighter than a popcorn fart' 'The View' tried to make his segment all about how poor uptight Republican Stepford Wife, Elizabeth Hazelback was hurt by a joke Bill had made on his HBO show 'Real Time'. Like some hurt child she would not let go for one second until she had him begging for her forgiveness.
Fuck that stupid bitch. She is the stupidest kind of Rightwing fembot - just a robot who repeats the anti-Obama meme of the day while daily displaying she has never had an original idea in that pretty little head of hers.
Watch the segment below and tell me what you think. If I was Bill I would have told her to fuck herself and grab a sense of humour. This is the worst kind of humorless twat which many of us have to spend to much time around in our lives.
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On the one hand, I agree with Bill (most of the time, actually) that comedy shouldn't have limits. Now, there are jokes I find that go way too far. Dice Clay, as an example, just grosses me out with his level of humor, so I tend to turn him off (for his comedy. His movie roles I'm okay with). Jokes about rape bother me. Jokes that evoke homophobia too. But there's levels I can tolerate on most things, and I know when I hit my limit.
All that aside, if I was made fun of in such a way as Hazelback is generally, and I had the chance to confront someone who did it, public figure or now, I might be inclined to dig into the person as well. Do I think the joke was that terrible? No. Did she duck under making it about "trading women" as opposed to the reality that it bothered her to be personally made fun of? I think so.
Recently, Khloe Khardashian (have no idea on the spelling, and can't work up the interest to look it up) posted a "It gets better" type of video at the askance of Perez Hilton, to talk about being bullied. It was meant to be about homosexuals getting harassed and abused and it leading to many killing themselves. But in her video, she said that she felt one of the biggest bullies in her life was Perez himself. And it's true. She's a reality "star" and gets flack for it, which is deserved. The fame and fortune she and her family have for accomplishing absolutely nothing is disgusting. But Perez (and many others) go after her for her look, for her body type, for not being as "pretty" as her sisters. And that's just mean-spirited and cruel, so calling him out on being a bully when he's sitting there preaching about it to others was the right thing for her to do.
Hazelback needs to have a thicker skin because she's a commentator, and because she expresses her opinions so strongly, and her views are very narrowly focused on one side of things (which most people's are, but we're not paid to talk about them like she is). Every day she walks in to collect a paycheck for spouting off her rhetoric and her misinformed ideas, she should laugh off jokes like Maher's all the way to the bank. But he also, as a comedian and commentator in his own right, needs to be aware that he pisses people off every day. A lot of people out there in his field don't like him. He went on her show, he should've expected an icy welcome from her.
But I saw the episode she was quoting the joke from. Pretty sure I laughed in agreement at the time.
Pwned.
I think his high school comment was right on. Hazelback is sort of a milder version of Ann Coulter. I'm getting to the point where I can't even consider most republicans as lucid human beings.
I'm in Arizona, a state whose legislature presented a bill to make a Colt single-action .45 as the state gun....just months after the shooting of Gabby Giffords and six other people by a dereanged idiot. Brilliant.
I love Bill Maher. From way back in the day. The thing I love most about him is the level of hatred that Republicans have for him.
People need to learn to laugh at themselves. I laugh at myself more than I laugh at anything else. It's healthy and it feels good. (Ha! I sound like I'm trying to sell the benefits of masturbation to a church group or something.)
I don't think there are any limits to comedy in terms of subject matter. I've laughed at jokes about racism, rape, abortion, gay people, etc. I don't think that makes me a bad person. I'm obviously against three of those subjects and a huge supporter of one of them (I'll let common sense dictate which is which, and hopefully your friends will come to the conclusion that I'm not an asshole).
Anyone can tell a joke about these tough subjects, but it takes a special kind of person to actually make them FUNNY.
You're going to make a joke about rape? You'd better make it fucking funny or people are gonna fry your ass in the media. You're going to joke about racism? You'd better be even more funny than you think you are and tell it in JUST the right way, or people will be protesting in your driveway.
I used to watch The View, but ever since Elizabeth Hasselbuzzkill joined the show, I can't do it anymore. So it's been awhile. I think the last thing I watched was a clip of Glenn Beck being caught out in a huge lie and he sat there sputtering and couldn't defend himself.
That was hilarious and super-awesome.
I read you pamphlet that you prepared for that church group. It was well done and CLASSY. I thought the pictures you used of both males and females pleasuring themselves was tastefully presented. They just weren't ready for your message of hope.
I think you and I would get along fabulously in real life Kyna. I feel exactly the way you do about 'funny'. FUNNY is an art. It's a gift from the gods. It's automatic. You can teach someone to tell a joke but you can't teach or train a mind to automatically go to the place labelled 'absurd' to evaluation each and every situation you are but in.
That is another reason I am a fabulous dinner companion. I am a HOOT to be around.
Maher did great. He let her make herself look even stupider while maintaining composure and professionalism himself.
And that Spider-Man joke was pretty damn funny!
I hate that show with a passion, this did not change my mind one bit. As you know I have 6 kids, 3 with special needs, so my house is always nuts. We do have a rule, don't talk while others are talking. These people talk over each other every minute. Wait your Damn turn there is plenty of stupid to go around.
And will someone please tell me why Whoppi has not stuck a fork in Elizabeth's eye? You could see she wanted to when she talked about knowing funny.
The embarrassment the other guests felt at her handling of Maher was painfully obvious. Good on him for keeping his cool.
I like Hazelback's views, let's start with that. The virtue of Bill squandering away from being confronted by her (yes, it was pretty blatant) exposes the fact that he *isn't* accountable for his views; now there's a difference between having a serious viewpoint and making a joke for a show. If he stood his ground more, than just making snide, under-the-breath comments, I'd respect him more. I like him a fair amount, I liked his older show years ago much better.
Do I respect him..? Eh, not as much as I used to.
I like Hazelback, but you're right, she was a bit too wound up (you can easily tell that in her body language, with her leg rocking..). She made a good point, but needed to regain some composure. It's a shame her cohorts on the show just let her hang out there.
So what if you don't agree with everything someone says, you're still comrades, and comrades don't just let one person hang like they do Elizabeth. She's the only brave one on there.
Mean Girls, much?
Maher is a comedian. It's his job to make jokes. Sometimes they're brilliant and sometimes they fall flat. It's part and parcel of the job.
It was obvious she was directly offended by it instead of hiding behind "it offends all women". She gave him a chance to apologise for it. He didn't. When she gets confronted over her opinions, she cries foul.
Was what he said distasteful? Most probably. Was it worth a slap on the wrist? Most probably. Ws it worth the snarkiness? Probably not.
Yeah, I watched this segment a few more times.. She was offended.
Geez, c'mon if your name is touted on cable TV nationwide to be sent over and raped, who wouldn't be offended...? But she's right where it offends all women to make such a comment publically, plain and simple.
I agree she was a bit shrill and sophmoric, and in a forum to discuss his new book, I question whether the length of time spent (and snarkiness..) was appropriate for a guest. Bill is controversial, no question there, but you still have to treat guests a bit more congenial, not just air personal views at their expense.
She's petty and shrill and I wish they would have had the courage to view the segment from Bill's show. Of course they didn't. Bill was through...like Homer when everyone though he molested the babysitter.
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